Friday, October 29, 2010

Evol-ID in Gross's framework--Part 3

Today's post is about Turner's framework of controversies coming about from social dramas.

Human beings act in a ritualistic way. They repeat different acts and place special meanings on these acts without even really thinking about it. These rituals become a sequence of our daily lives, and function to prevent conflict. When these social rituals are deliberately challenged, this is when drama, or controversy, occurs.

So when IDers try and and have ID taught in science classes this is challenging a few social norms. They are challenging the idea of teaching good science in science class. They are challenging the first amendment (ie not teaching a single religion (if you accept the idea that ID is religion)). They are even challenging science's social norms by circumventing the normal methods of science.

These are all factors that can lead to the controversy starting/continuing.

Next will be Habermas and his framework.

Thursday, October 28, 2010

Evol-ID in Gross's framework--Part 2

The first part of Gross's 3 frameworks is Gusfield's 'Controversies as clashes of moral orders'.

Now remember here, morals are more on a social scale... So this is basically saying controversies happen when two (social) differences of opinions clash, or when one moral becomes more of a norm and is challenged. I think it can also come about from people having different interpretations of the same moral norm.


So if we look at this just in terms of teaching ID in the science classroom, we find a clear clash of morals. One group believes that ID should be kept out of science, and one believes it should be taught next to genetics 'to be balanced'. You could even say that this is a challenge of the social norm too, because ID has been banned from schools.


Now this is just the beginning of the frameworks, and as I explain more about them the relations will become clearer and you can see why you need all three to analyse.


Before I finish this post though, I want to look at a couple of quotes.


The first quote comes from The Wedge  Strategy document that I talked about many posts back. The quote basically says that ID needs to "defeat [the]materialist world view" represented by the theory of evolution and replace it with "a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.”


That basically gives very good evidence for a clash of moral norms where one really wants to overtake the other (especially when you consider they say they just want a balanced discussion).


The second quote is the one I mentioned last post from the Gross paper:



‘There is a more insidious effect of moral orders: by substituting displays of high feelings for reason, they distort and suppress public debate over the issues that are their concern.’

Now nearly all of this is true for Gusfield in this sense, except for one point. Rather than suppressing public debate, ID proponents are actually creating debate where none exists (or shouldn't). Well, there's no debate in science, but they're fuelling public debate but telling people that there is.

Turner's up next.

Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Evol-ID in Gross's framework

For the next few posts I thought I'd do a version of the analysis I did the controversy in for my class presentation.

I analysed the controversy using Alan Gross's three interlinking frameworks for examining controversies (the paper is titled Scientific and technical controversy: Three frameworks for analysis if you wanted to find it somewhere).

Basically Gross uses three controversy frameworks made by others, and show how they all interlink to give a greater understanding of a controversy (although he states that these three would still not encompass everything needed for some).

So the three frameworks are:

1. Gusfield framework

This framework says controversies are all about clashes of moral orders. That when people change, challenge, or adapt moral orders different from the norm, controversies arise.

He also makes this statement at one point, ‘There is a more insidious effect of moral orders: by substituting displays of high feelings for reason, they distort and suppress public debate over the issues that are their concern.’ I'll come back to this later.

2. Turner framework

Turner's framework suggests that controversies are all about social drama. When the norms in societies are challenged drama is the result, and this is where controversies arise.

3. Habermas framework

Habermas says that controversies can be broken down into five categories, each which needs a different type of communicative action to be solved.

The five categories with their resolutions are:

Political--Negotiation
Ethical--Mutual tolerance

Moral--Understanding and agreement

Intellectual--Understanding and agreement

Scientific--Experiment and controlled observation (with some understanding and agreement)

He also points out the difference between morals and ethics. Ethics are an individual's ideas or choices on what they accept of believe to be true. Morals are on a social scale, as in what is overall accepted socially (social ethics, I guess).

Monday, October 25, 2010

cdesign proponentsists

I promised to talk about this a couple of posts ago and just realised I never got around to it. So it's going to be a bit of history, and a bit of a laugh.

ID came into existence around December of 1987. This was after creationism was banned for violating the Establishment Clause of the US constitution in June of 1987. The court that ruled this decision said that 'alternate science theories could be taught' or something along those lines. Hence the birth of the 'science' of Intelligent Design.

The book Of Pandas and People was being written while all this was going on, and in its drafting stages when the final verdict came out. The book was written by people with relations to the Discovery Institute, and when finally published was the first documentation containing information on ID as we know it.

Unfortunately, this wasn't always the case.

As I stated earlier, this book was having its draft edited when the final verdict banning creationism came out. The book had originally been filled with words like creationism, creationists, and creator. After the ruling, the book was edited again to put a new slant on the creationist movement. That's right, all those creation terms were changed to ID terms... Intelligent Design, design proponent, and designer respectively. No change to the creation content of the book, just putting a new term on it so they could eventually claim that ID wasn't religious and was actually scientific.

But if they changed what the book said during before the second draft, then how do we know that?

Well in one case the word 'creationists' wasn't edited completely correctly. It was only half replaced and ended up as 'cdesign proponentsists'.

This clear link between creationism and ID eventually played a big role in the 2005 court case that banned ID from science classes.

Friday, October 22, 2010

Talk Design

TalkDesign is a website that gives a 'critical analysis Intelligent Design'. It is a subsite of TalkOrigins and, while a bit old, has some interesting and useful posts up about ID.

I thought I'd put up a couple of links to ones I like to get you all started.

Firstly, this is a brief analysis of how the ID movement is basically making a controversy where none exists.


This second link is a good satire of some of the common ID arguments.


Enjoy!

Thursday, October 21, 2010

Nice little summary of ID in science class

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827833.000-creationism-lives-on-in-us-public-schools.html


This article shows a few of the key points since the 2005 court trial that banned ID from being taught in science class. It shows that they clearly haven't given up, but I love the last line in the article because it's so true. I just wonder when the Discovery Institute will realise they're not fooling anyone (stay tuned for a post soon on 'cdesign proponentsists' because I only recently found out about this and it's fantastic)


Now I just wish that story had come out a couple of days ago, so I could have integrated it into my presentation last night on the Evol-ID controversy in relation to being taught in schools

Wednesday, October 20, 2010

What if they got their proof?

So imagine somehow that ID got proof, beyond any doubt, that an organism was designed. They came up with a perfect definition of what to look for in a designed organism, and found it in something.

What would happen then?

So what? It was designed, great. Who designed it? You'd have all the religions claiming it was their god who created/designed it. You'd have the UFO conspirators claim advanced races of aliens designed them and us and everything else and that we should hail our alien designers and overlords. There'd probably even be a war or something (although maybe I'm going a little over the top there).


You might even get a new type of religion or pseudo-science along the lines of 'God must have been intelligently designed--hail God's God'.

And from all this, what would science do? Probably just have lots of debate, undergo a paradigm shift, and start looking for those traits in other organisms and look at the world with new knowledge.

Tuesday, October 19, 2010

Interesting thought

I found this article on the web today that brought up an interesting point.

The author of the article suggested a shift in paradigm to look at evolution in a new way. Rather than the simple, single directional 'survival of the fittest' paradigm, he suggested that the evolutionary paradigm should be looked at as having two driving forces. These are (from the article):
  • the individual/self-interest/survival of the fittest/genetic heritage; and
  • the community/benevolence/mutual aid/cultural heritage.
The first point is the normal/current evolutionary paradigm I referred to above. The second point, however, suggests that natural selection is not driven solely by the suitability of each single organism, but that the community an organism lives within will also drive its evolutionary pathway.

I found this to ring true with humans especially. We've basically ruined the idea of natural selection applying to us by creating things like hospitals and seatbelts. If you consider culture within the definition of evolution though, then we would still fit under natural selection in some sense.

And these ideas apply to animals too really. Many species will help other animals in their population when they're sick or injured or young or if it gives them a mutual benefit as well. These populations may end up with a better chance of surviving then those who don't.

It's just a way of looking at evolution that I hadn't thought of before, but one that makes a lot of sense in some ways.

Monday, October 18, 2010

The last of risks... I suppose

I just realised that this post never went up even though it was supposed to go with my last post...

But yes, the final part of risk that I want to discuss is the idea of decisions under ignorance. Except I guess in this sense it is more of an argument under ignorance...

A large argument that comes from proponents of ID is the idea of irreducible complexity. This basically means that some organisms have parts that are made up of many systems working together, or a system with many different parts. The system is so set in how it works that there's no way that the trait could have evolved, as without one part of the system, it would be useless and non functional.

Evolutionary scientists have already shown how these types of traits can arise. For example, a component's original function may have been completely different, but was assimilated into a system to gain a new function. One part may be useful but not necessary, until other parts are removed. Most genes control more than one trait.

Yet even in light of these kinds of explanations, the arguments for irreducible complexity continue. No effort if made to find this information to see how true their claims are. This isn't the only ID argument where this happens either. I guess it really comes back a bit to the not being able to trust 'experts'.

Tuesday, October 5, 2010

More on Risks

I want to talk about this controversy in terms of the frameworks for controversy we discussed in the course, but before that I am going to do a couple more posts on risks.


I think one of the biggest risks I've failed to include in any posts on the topic is the one involved in Pascal's Wager. Of course, this makes the assumption that anyone who accepts evolution is an atheist (which a lot of ID proponents would argue to be true), and as I've stated, I don't agree with this. Ignoring that, however, I shall talk a bit about the risk involved here (and how you could consider it to be wrong).


So Pascal's Wager goes something like this (from our lecture):


God ExistsGod Doesn't Exist
TheistInfinity2
Atheist0 (or negative infinity for hell?)10000000 (or any finite value)



This says that no matter how much satisfaction you'd get as an atheist for being right about God not existing, it would never be as good as the infinite happiness granted by heaven, so you should believe in God.


Of course, then what happens when you consider that you might be worshipping the wrong god? Or that a God may reward atheists who have still led good lives? Or you consider the 'God Doesn't Exist' benefit to be highly negative, because you've 'wasted' your life worshipping. Perhaps it's as Richard Dawkins suggests and God may punish blind or feigned faith. Just makes you wonder where the risk really lies.